Accepted Toggle Friendly Fire

[Frussly]

A very simple but helpful suggestion IMO.

TF2 Jailbreak

Friendly fire. The thing everyone hates and loves.
It’s too easy to access for power hungry 13 year olds, or just people with fat fingers... Like me!

Right, enough introduction, on to the point:
Move the “Toggle Friendly Fire” button in the wmenu, to the second page in order to minimize the fuckups wardens do in tight situations, and limit the inexperienced people to do it every day.
When warden dies and a new warden comes to the throne, and every red is scattering around or charging you, sometimes you don’t think about it and just hit it.

Pls fix

 

[Reddomonki-]

i wholeheartedly agree when i started playing as warden on the servers i would try to press 3 to pull my melee out faster and would enable friendly fire for like a second and immediately turn it off because of me realizing the warden menu was still up

 

[Frussly]

I have a fix you can utilize without actually changing anything about the game: close the warden menu in normal play. The argumnt could be made that warden commands could be more difficult to access, however you can still access warden commands even without having that menu up. Use commands like /wff (toggle friendly fire) /wcc (toggle collisions) /open (open cells) /wradar (toggle radar) /wmute (open a mute menu) and many others

Yes I do understand that, and I do that myself, when just playing regularly.

But the whole point was that in situations where you have very little time to react you shouldn’t be able to fuck the entire enemy team up (as it isn’t allowed), because you wanted to defend yourself or hurry and do something else.
e.g round goes as follows:
Warden1: “Go to the blue line, afk, afm”

8 out of 11 people does so

Warden1: Starts checking cells, gets fucked over by a spy who was near the stairs-

-Everyone starts running around yelling freeday, and scatters to every corner of the map.

New warden steps in

Warden2: “All reds will be pardon...”

Warden2 is getting charged, presses 3 on his keyboard to take out his melee, turns on FF, dies right after, and entire server is team killing each other.

No other blues goes warden and entire server is upset on one guy.

^That could’ve been prevented by simply moving it a “page” further in the menu and replaced it with something less lethal

 

[RulerOfTheFae]

I usually just keep the menu closed when I don't need it (as mentioned by Holly before), it's pretty easy to just type "/w" and press 3 when you want to activate friendly fire.

 

[Frussly]

I

Read what I mentioned before.

No one should be punished by bad design or bad wardens

 

[RulerOfTheFae]

Well it's easy for the warden to close the menu, there's no way to prevent bad wardens from toggling friendly fire without preventing the good ones too, if you aren't trying to turn on friendly fire, close the menu. If they're turning it on illegally intentionally, there's no way to stop that.

 

[Frussly]

Well it's easy for the warden to close the menu, there's no way to prevent bad wardens from toggling friendly fire without preventing the good ones too, if you aren't trying to turn on friendly fire, close the menu. If they're turning it on illegally intentionally, there's no way to stop that.

Correct, but it would still help considering newer players with bad intentions would actually have to look for it.
Also: you dont just think “oh I am the new warden, I should press 0 before this overhealed powerjack pyro that is 250 hammer units away from me charges me, and fucks up the day”
Irony saves the day

 

[Eight]

While Fae and Holly do have a point of you can just close the menu, I honestly wouldn't mind moving the position of FF. In the end it's a minimal change that won't have any downsides as far as I know, and people do accidentally press it quite often from what I've seen. Even if it was just moved down to "4" or "5" that'd be better, as "3" is the button for Melees which is much more commonly used than the ladder buttons.

@Xypher thoughts on adding this?

 

[Keith Haring]

I make this mistake sooooo many times too.

 

[Poot this thing here]

just use the scroll wheel

 

[Frussly]

just use the scroll wheel

I have both scrollwheel up & down bound to jump, for better bhops

 

[Roach]

just use WL's bhop? i mean i know it's 30k credits but that's not too difficult to reach if you're good at math.

 

[Frussly]

just use WL's bhop? i mean i know it's 30k credits but that's not too difficult to reach if you're good at math.

I'd rather not, considering its ass and that it completely ruins the fun of actually hitting a good spree of hops in a row.
I also currently already own it, and have another 450.000 credits that i just have saved up. I still do not intend to ever use the bhop again

 

[Roach]

I'd rather not, considering its ass and that it completely ruins the fun of actually hitting a good spree of hops in a row.
I also currently already own it, and have another 450.000 credits that i just have saved up. I still do not intend to ever use the bhop again

I do agree that it's shit, the one in the surfing maps is much better, dunno why they don't just use that.

 

[Frussly]

I do agree that it's shit, the one in the surfing maps is much better, dunno why they don't just use that.

They make their own plugins as far as i know? @Xypher

 

[Xypher]

We have a seperate bhop in the surf servers

 

[Roach]

We have a seperate bhop in the surf servers

How comes?

 

[Xypher]

How comes?

We enabled auto bunnyhop for everyone on the surf servers, you can do this by holding crouch + jump buttons

 

[Roach]

We enabled auto bunnyhop for everyone on the surf servers, you can do this by holding crouch + jump buttons

Yes but why the separate plugin? I've used the bhop on surf and it actually works, I have yet to get a proper bhop going on JB, and holding crouch stops you from jumping period.

 

[Lithium]

Actually they should add it to where people need at least 10-15 server hours in order to turn on friendly fire, therefore at least this might prevent illegal ff as said above, however it wouldn't prevent accidental friendly fire