Accepted few JB suggestions

[Ray]

1. Hide and Seek time is three minutes, very long for most maps, I think the only map I can agree with it being there is famous but even then two minutes is enough, so I suggest we reduce it to two minutes I think it’s satisfactory enough where people can’t complain they didn’t get enough time and blues aren’t waiting forever to seek.

2. I don’t know if it was recently added because it was originally broken or suggested but the demoman charge is really OP on LRs that make it melee only, making the blue team barely lose their disadvantage they were intended to get. So if possible I’d suggest shields should be restricted from any day that’s melee only as it should really be melee only

3. wtf happened to jailbreak night? One of the best maps. Unless there’s a good reason why it’s out of rotation I’m suggesting to bring it back

 

[Pootiscow]

1. Hide and Seek time is three minutes, very long for most maps, I think the only map I can agree with it being there is famous but even then two minutes is enough, so I suggest we reduce it to two minutes I think it’s satisfactory enough where people can’t complain they didn’t get enough time and blues aren’t waiting forever to seek.

100% agree, 90-120 sec is more than enough to hide for me.

2. I don’t know if it was recently added because it was originally broken or suggested but the demoman charge is really OP on LRs that make it melee only, making the blue team barely lose their disadvantage they were intended to get. So if possible I’d suggest shields should be restricted from any day that’s melee only as it should really be melee only

Barely losing their advantage seems like a massive understatement(for melee only round), 2x the players who are also able to get ammo is way more of an advantage than demos who can charge. If the reds all want to rebel, they should be able to win every time already.
For purge, it is fairly OP for blue demos to have charge, and every time everyone tries to get a spot on blue so they are able to charge. Personally, I don't feel strongly either way for changing charge on purge.

3. wtf happened to jailbreak night? One of the best maps. Unless there’s a good reason why it’s out of rotation I’m suggesting to bring it back

100% agree, replace the normal minecraft map with the night version in the rotating map servers, idk why the normal one is even an option when you could join almost any other jailbreak server to play that map 24/7.

 

[Olaves]

1. Hide and Seek time is three minutes, very long for most maps, I think the only map I can agree with it being there is famous but even then two minutes is enough, so I suggest we reduce it to two minutes I think it’s satisfactory enough where people can’t complain they didn’t get enough time and blues aren’t waiting forever to seek.

Between 90-120 seconds sounds perfect IMO. I agree. 3 minutes is WAYYYY too long.

 

[Frussly]

While we’re at it, can we add disguising for REDs back? That shit was the most fun I’ve had on jailbreak forever

 

[.2b]

I agree that 3 minutes is too long to hide. I would suggest to staff to probably lower it to about 90 seconds.

 

[TheMinecraftPoke]

Great suggestion. Hide and Seek should be reduced to 90 seconds because 3 minutes is too long.

While we’re at it, can we add disguising for REDs back? That shit was the most fun I’ve had on jailbreak forever

I never knew that disguising was allowed on red but I think this will be op because reds could sneak about disguised as a blue.

 

[Prxme]

Great suggestion. Hide and Seek should be reduced to 90 seconds because 3 minutes is too long.

I never knew that disguising was allowed on red but I think this will be op because reds could sneak about disguised as a blue.

exactly thats the point of disguising

 

[Ray]

Unfortunately minecraft night causes issues related to crashing I believe, it you have questions you can ask xypher but it looks like we aren’t getting it back unless an update to the map might fix the issue not sure

 

[Xypher]

Map removals only happen if;

• Map errors
• Map is not optimized
• Map is causing timeouts

 

[Eight]

1. Hide and Seek time is three minutes, very long for most maps, I think the only map I can agree with it being there is famous but even then two minutes is enough, so I suggest we reduce it to two minutes I think it’s satisfactory enough where people can’t complain they didn’t get enough time and blues aren’t waiting forever to seek.

Alright, in retrospect yeah there has been a lot of complaints about it. So, I don't think it'd hurt that much to lower it a minute (except for larger maps such as Chretein), but I honestly still see it as fine. The rounds last thirteen minutes overall, so BLUs still have ten minutes to seek and REDs still have plenty of time to choose a good hiding spot. The only issue I really see with the time being three minutes is that it's annoying for the BLUs waiting when they feel they don't need to. Not that that's an invalid complaint, I get the question of if the hiding time is needed, I'm just bringing up the point that it doesn't really harm the game at all, unlike the opposite (too short of a hiding time) would.

2. I don’t know if it was recently added because it was originally broken or suggested but the demoman charge is really OP on LRs that make it melee only, making the blue team barely lose their disadvantage they were intended to get. So if possible I’d suggest shields should be restricted from any day that’s melee only as it should really be melee only

On one hand, Demoman shields just aren't melees, so they should be restricted like they are on Pokemon. On the other hand, I agree with @Pootiscow on that BLUs will just get steamrolled more than they usually do on melee only rounds if the shields were removed. So here are my thoughts:

+1 for removing on Purge. The aspect of BLUs needing some defense capabilities isn't an issue here, so there's no argument I can see for keeping the shields enabled.

Leaning towards +1 for removing on melee-only rounds. While yes, it wouldn't be just barely a disadvantage, I think the whole point of the LR anyway is nerfing the BLUs to hell, so I don't think it matters much to remove what really shouldn't be enabled in the first place. Also, just from personal experience, I haven't seen much melee-only rounds saved by demoknighting.

 

[Prxme]

Bring back the enternal reward it's more fun to disguise.

 

[Stao]

1. Yes. A few servers have this now I believe.

2. This is currently being discussed.

3. Not optimized. Per Xypher.

 

[Prxme]

Bring new JB maps something high demand for a year now but is ignored all the time

 

[Stao]

Bring new JB maps something high demand for a year now but is ignored all the time

TF2 - Map Suggestions Thread.

Format: Map(s) Name: EX_ample Server/Gamemode: Jailbreak/Deathrun/VSH/etc.. Map Included in a server rotation already: Yes/No If previous answer is no, link to map(s): https://examplewebsite.example/EX_ample Why it should be added: Example reason here.

wonderland.tf

 

[Eight]

Approved for shortening Hide and Seek time - https://wonderland.tf/threads/july-10-2019.7192/.

Discussions about charging can be redirected to the thread above. ^

Issues with Jb Minecraft Night explained above.